650b+/27+/6Fattie - Is It Here To Stay?

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1. When I got my first mtb in 87 people sneered, just like my Dad when I got a Grifter in 76...40 years on it's 26" vs 27.5" vs 29"...same tune, different name. No video is going to dissuade/change your mind and nor should it...If you dig it do it.
2. I LOVE my Rocky Mountain Sherpa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARQRkg_-Cmc Tire pressure is everything. I've experimented a lot and run 13 psi and they work amazing. It's the most fun bike I've ever ridden. 27.5+ seems fine. I haven't ridden a 29+ but suspect they'd be too damn big and heavy. I really wonder what 26+ would be like.
3. These look cool as hell but more practical than a huge fatboy tire. Hope they catch on.
4. the bike industry can't even support a decent selection of 650c tires which has been around for a long time, way before 650b. Now they want folks to go to 650b+ ??
5. I liked the review but it has to be said that the plus sizes really are a bigger "deal" to larger riders. I'm 6' 4" and not heavy but I produce a lot of torque when I stand up on the pedals. I'm also aware of the fact that being taller means my center of gravity is higher, and consequently, the risk of injury from a fall is much greater. How much so, I ran the numbers, it's ~33% more force than the same BMI rider of 5'7" with a 32" inseam. OUCH. So the extra traction of a plus bike is that much more welcome and confidence inspiring. I constantly slid out on my 29er running 2.1" tread. Tried lower pressure, squirm, just wasn't feeling good on anything except straights or dirt. Tested a bunch of bikes a couple of months ago and the plus size was a winner. Felt the same weight as my 29er but with GOBS more traction and confidence. I think if you are in the tall and/or heavier side of the bicycling norm, go plus and just smile. The joy of finding a bike finally made for my percentile has me so happy that I'm posting it on the internetz here and now!
   Short to average height riders (on the shorter side anyways) won't notice or even have the torque to take advantage of the traction so it's probably not worth explaining it unless you do as I do and pull out the physics books. Even if a smaller rider were to produce the same torque it still wouldn't show-up as a slipping tire since the tractive force limit would be lower as the whole moving assembly (rider plus bike) is lighter. It'll move forward instead of spinning. It's not complicated, just physics and yes, being tall on 26" was not fun and the 29er without a wider rim gave us speed but not much more traction = less confidence.
   The plus bike will win out and my prediction is the 2.8" tires to take the biggest market share. I bought a Cannondale Bad Habit 1 and am very happy with the ride quality over my 29er. The 3" tires and wider rim than most other manufacturers has me a little concerned and if I could have gotten the Santa Cruz Tallboy 3 carbon for the price of the BH1 I would have gone that route. Saying that, after riding the 3" more on the trails I'm very happy. It's fast all around and weights under 32 lb setup tubeless being a XL frame and full suspension alloy. Not too shabby.
   For the normal riders I'd stay away from the 3" and go with the 2.8" on a less than 40mm rim. The rim width really helps but the 3" tire isn't necessary. I could have likely gone with a wide rim 29er but from the 29ers I rode, even the Tallboy 2, the front wheel felt heavier to flick than the huge BH1 3" tread. Something to be said about keeping the rim diameter smaller and the tire sidewall a little larger. Check out F1 cars for big tire sidewall handling!
   To the great guys on this channel, please consider the advantages for people not your, or normal size. The sport could use more big guys.
6. Clydesdale: MTBer over 200lbs! Like my brother and I. Yoop!!
7. what about 26+ ?
8. Interesting times indeed. Don't forget about new metric shock standards and how 200mm isn't offered...
9. I bought the Specialized Fuse, "6Fattie" 27.5x3.0 a couple months ago. Haven't had a chance to take it on a proper trail ride since I live in Minnesota, but it's been a blast on hard-packed snow trails. If the trail was loose, I had to back down to 7psi, but otherwise 11psi did really nice. I'd expect to run closer to 14 on dirt.
   The frame is set up for Boost hubs, 110 front and 148 rear, so swaps would require a new set of wheels. I hope to see more boost hubs available in time.
   As far as grip vs drag, that is a function of pressure, and single digits are truly noticeable, but if we really felt it was that critical, wouldn't we be riding on 1.85" tires? When was the last time you shopped for 1.95s?
   Maybe we will not see them winning downhill races, or even XC races, but it climbs like mad, and corners well. They have their place in the low-ground pressure world, as well as the "Bike for all seasons" world.
10. is there a way to get a plus tyre on a standard 650b bike
11. Cant you put the wheels side by side so i can see the difference for myself?
12. are the forks the same?
13. Funny how pro racers are not using these wheels
14. of course it is here to stay, it will not take over the 29er segment, but it will be a big part of the market in the coming years. but, what do you guys know, you guys dont have matching beards and trucker hats.
15. The treks forks seem to be on the wrong way round ...
16. Increased weight...what are you a little bitch...man the fuck up!
17. i think it all depends where you ride and what time for year.... here in colorado in the late fall and early spring things are very slippery and we need all the grip we can get. Being able to convert you 29'er to take a 27+ wheel with a 3 inch wide tire would allow a rider to ride his/her bike longer without having to buy another bike
18. What the hell are they saying??? Is it true I can now fit a 27.5x 3"wide tire in my regular 29er frame and fork?????
19. More grip = More drag. What he said? still strikes me as shiny gear for the gear junkies. It undoubtedly has its place like true fat bikes. But it still seems as if its a quest for the niche to say they're not letting the industry go stale.
20. i ride 28/25.on 2.3s on a regular 120mm full sus ive tried lower pressures i dont see the benifit of super low pressures and i live in pnw seattle so its always wet n rooty